• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Every proteat over ICE I’ve seen HAS been peaceful. The only time things get non-peaceful is by ICE. Spraying pepper spray in childrens faces. Slamming elderly face first into pavement. Oh, and would you believe ICE is actually murdering people now? It’s true.

    • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
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      3 hours ago

      Peaceful protest means not pushing back against officers. Peaceful protest means not setting fires. Peaceful protest means not breaking windows. Peaceful protests means not blocking roads. Peaceful protest means not taking a knee before the football game.

      Peaceful protest actually seems to mean sit in the corner, shut the fuck up, and do as your told.

      • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Property damage isn’t violence. And it’s become wild that people equate it as such.

        Peaceful protests can include property damage. I think it’s entirely valid to obstruct, damage, and impede.

        The only people using violence, the ONLY PEOPLE, have been ICE and the police. The only people not being peaceful have been ICE and the police.

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          The issue is that property damage usually just fucks over the community long term. Cool, you ransacked some corpo shit. Now who’s going to be willing to move into that space?

          And it never stops at just damage to government and corpo-shit. Go ahead and fuck up your local spaces, but don’t be surprised if things don’t magically build back better when people don’t want to live in places where this sort of shit goes down.

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            3 hours ago

            Paraphrasing Kimberly Jones of BLM, they’re not ‘your’ local spaces to begin with.

            Respect for property starts with equity.

            (Note: I do not endorse the censoring in the video, but I couldn’t find a complete version.)

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          8 hours ago

          Sorry if I was unclear, there is no protest peaceful enough for anyone claiming No Kings / Anti-ICE marches are not peaceful. Those types simply don’t want protest, full stop.

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            8 hours ago

            Oh I see, I agree. The don’t want protest because they work. That’s why parts of Asia and the Middle East try and stop them by slaughtering them.

            I will say though, it’s easy to get your point confused with the people trying to start chaos in America by saying peaceful protests aren’t enough, that you have to commit suicide by nazi or you don’t love your country.