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Bush II’s wars generated the largest peaceful protests of their time. They were ignored.
The thing they’re protesting isn’t peaceful.
Every proteat over ICE I’ve seen HAS been peaceful. The only time things get non-peaceful is by ICE. Spraying pepper spray in childrens faces. Slamming elderly face first into pavement. Oh, and would you believe ICE is actually murdering people now? It’s true.
Peaceful protest means not pushing back against officers. Peaceful protest means not setting fires. Peaceful protest means not breaking windows. Peaceful protests means not blocking roads. Peaceful protest means not taking a knee before the football game.
Peaceful protest actually seems to mean sit in the corner, shut the fuck up, and do as your told.
Property damage isn’t violence. And it’s become wild that people equate it as such.
Peaceful protests can include property damage. I think it’s entirely valid to obstruct, damage, and impede.
The only people using violence, the ONLY PEOPLE, have been ICE and the police. The only people not being peaceful have been ICE and the police.
At this point, the administration is treating words as violence.
Sure, but “non violent” is not the same as “peaceful”.
The issue is that property damage usually just fucks over the community long term. Cool, you ransacked some corpo shit. Now who’s going to be willing to move into that space?
And it never stops at just damage to government and corpo-shit. Go ahead and fuck up your local spaces, but don’t be surprised if things don’t magically build back better when people don’t want to live in places where this sort of shit goes down.
Paraphrasing Kimberly Jones of BLM, they’re not ‘your’ local spaces to begin with.
Respect for property starts with equity.
(Note: I do not endorse the censoring in the video, but I couldn’t find a complete version.)
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Naaaah, LA was peaceful and they set fire to some police cars and a waymo. They didn’t hurt anyone.
Sorry if I was unclear, there is no protest peaceful enough for anyone claiming No Kings / Anti-ICE marches are not peaceful. Those types simply don’t want protest, full stop.
Oh I see, I agree. The don’t want protest because they work. That’s why parts of Asia and the Middle East try and stop them by slaughtering them.
I will say though, it’s easy to get your point confused with the people trying to start chaos in America by saying peaceful protests aren’t enough, that you have to commit suicide by nazi or you don’t love your country.
…really hoping you dropped this: “/s”
Yep, I’ve heard all manner of ignorant and anti-social shit along those lines.
“If you don’t like it, leave.” - From people who bitched and moaned about everything for 2 Obama terms and 1 Biden term.
“Why don’t they have jobs? / Why aren’t they in church?” - About people out protesting on a Saturday morning.
“This isn’t going to accomplish anything.” - From people sitting on their computers doing nothing, except claiming they want the same things as me, even though they’re not willing to put any effort into anything at all that involves leaving the comfort of their devices’ screens.
As someone in Minneapolis it’s also the most out of touch bullshit to say to people that are just trying to walk to a bus stop or pass some car on their street when it’s parked in the middle of the fucking road. It’s impossible to not ‘interfere’ with those shitheads because they think they own the 9 blocks around them
Yep and also whats your definition of “peacefully” because often people try to frame any disruption of life as “violence” never even mind property destruction.
Why can’t people
protest peacefully?shut up and let me live in willful, convenient, ignorance?You can say fuck on the internet.
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Something I’ve noticed is that self-censoring seems to artificially increase the rank of post in the feed, as the people who comment about it boost the post’s activity, and thus make it show up higher depending on the the viewer’s post sorting method chosen.
EDIT: To be clear, I’m not advocating for self censoring to game the system, it’s just something I’ve observed happening on the posts that do self-censor. Every post with censored swears has always received more comments than it normally would’ve due to people commenting on the censoring, which has boosted it in my feed.
There are no (edit)engagement algorithms here. Engagement should encourage conversation on the topic, not the behaviors of the poster.
Both self-censorship and “engagement” mentality come from the same diseased source: corporate social media.
The ‘Hot’ and ‘Active’ sorting options on your homepage is a primitive sorting algorithm, explained further in the lemmy docs themselves:
A recent post with more comments will rank higher when using the ‘Active’ sorting method, hence why self-censored posts, which encourage people to call out the self-censoring as unnecessary (which I agree with) likely boost the self-censored post higher than it would’ve gotten without the censoring.
Just like with the other person I said this to: There are no algorithms that shadow-drop the topic like on other platforms. You knew exactly what I meant when I typed it, but chose a different path.
I’m not saying that lemmy’s algorithm is at all similar to mainstream social media’s dark patterns and addictive algorithms.
Lemmy’s use of a simple algorithm is necessary for this site to function at all (sorting newer posts from older posts is itself an algorithm), and does not imply that something nefarious is afoot. But it does use, by definition, an algorithm.
To state there are no algorithms is objectively false.
My observation is that the posts that self-censor happen to (likely not even intentionally) boost the popularity of said censored post due to the increased amount of comments against the self-censoring, as a result of the simple (non-addictive and non-exploitative) nature of Lemmy’s sorting algorithm.
Take note that so far, this post has received 12 comments in a short time just regarding the censoring, rocketing it up to be seen by more people, some of which will add their own thoughts on the censoring, and perpetuate its increased ranking in the feed.
Great. You still knew what I meant.
An algorithm is just a defined procedure to apply to a given set of inputs to give a set of outputs. Technically sorting by new is applying an algorithm to the posts, just one with a single step. Something like hot or scaled do take into account number of comments and views.
I know what it is. You knew what I meant.
Yes there are, or the ‘hot’ and ‘active’ sorting orders wouldn’t exist.
There are no algorithms that shadow-drop the topic like on other platforms. You knew exactly what I meant when I typed it, but chose a different path.
Yes, I knew exactly what you meant which is why I challenged it.
What they were describing is a part of the Lemmy algorithm. Posts with more engagement get higher spots on the Active and Hot sort orders.
What you said was basically a strawman.
No.
Fuck off with this bullshit.
Could you explain what you dislike about me mentioning my observation?
Even this post mocking the concern trolls is too generous. People are already protesting peacefully - what they want is for you to protest in a manner that won’t make them uncomfortable. In other words, where they can ignore it.
Put them on the defensive. Ask MAGAts why they hate freedom when they try and shit talk about protesters.
Can agree this is very effective at shutting them the fuck up. All of them have moved so incredibly far away from even a basic understanding of freedom that it becomes the easiest thing to point out with pretty much every talking point they have.
Freedom is slavery.
ITT: People ignoring-concept because of the use of “fck” instead of “fuck”; also others undermining the usefulness of mass-movements without violence
I’m all for offensive-defending, but we aren’t quite there yet (but unfortunately close). It’s trying to save what we can and take back what we lost. The consequences can be read about later, but for now… fascists are cowards and fear actualization of their own consequence
They’ll fight tooth and nail to instill fear of repercussions, because of the fear of their own actions having consequences… cowards — as well as a small minority.
They’re afraid of peoples united, so they act-out and terrorize in order to stave-off the people, and defend their own intolerance
It won’t be pretty, but it doesn’t need to be a blood-bath. “Strong in the real way” is harder for masses to agree on… but that’s what the fascist fucks count on. They need fear to survive and control
Fuck Nazi’s. (pissant peasants clinging to an idea of power to quell their own self-hatred)
What does she suggest everyone do? Get executed like Alex Pretti for just having a gun on him?
Minnesota fucking rocks and don’t belittle how they and LA handled this shitty situation. Fuck, trump had to pull his goons in LA because they didn’t get what they wanted.
The word is “fuck.” Lemmy isn’t TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, or whatever location you got this habit from. Stop censoring yourself. We know what you’re trying to say when you abbreviate it; doing so is complying with the corporate powers and other entities that want to control our language.
so who is controlling language now?
I’m not controlling shit. I’m delivering commentary about someone else’s language.
Shut the fuck up, you sound like a twat.
Just arrived from reddit, everyone. Cut them some slack.
I’m really worried that it’s the people protesting the illegal death squads that aren’t peaceful enough
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