I totally get it and it sucks. I’m grossed out that the media didn’t pick up the non white people.
However the moment people were told, they stood up and I think that’s great.
Purity testing is the greatest enemy of the left (or maybe it’s bad tofu?)
The right looks for allies, the left looks for traitors. We can’t let mistakes and misunderstandings divide us.
Betcha this guy ain’t feeling too clever these days
I think everybody understands that ICE Apes are killing all sorts of people, but I think the Good and Pretti deaths have become lightning rods because first, they were filmed, and second, because they were both clear cases of execution.
If we had video of the other deaths, and they proved to be just as heinous, and not in response to a brandished weapon for instance, then they’d be just as notorious. It was the video that made the biggest difference in blowing up these incidents, which is why it is a big win that ICE seems to be adding body cameras to all their Apes.
For those who want to believe that the only reason that we are getting upset about Good and Pretti is because they are white, should remember that there was widespread national outcry over the video torture murder of George Floyd, and the execution of the sleeping Breonna Taylor. Most Americans get just as outraged by the official murders of any American citizen, not just the white ones.
That said, I will acknowledge that these victims being white have done a lot to make MAGAs question ICE policies, while they wouldn’t have cared if they were POC.
It’s video, from multiple angles, that made the difference, not their race.
That said, I will acknowledge that these victims being white have done a lot to make MAGAs question ICE policies.
Are you sure? Because I just see MAGAs making jokes about about ICE is doing “Pretti Good” work
Just to back this up, the 32 ICE murders in 2025 didn’t involve US Citizens.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jan/04/ice-2025-deaths-timeline
Keith Porter was also a US Citizen, but we don’t have high quality video of the dude being executed from multiple angles in broad daylight.
One of the major reasons the Civil Rights Acts were passed is because moderates saw how heinous and violent southern police and governments were to black Americans living there. The thing that galvanized the country to finally end Jim Crow and start repairing the damage done from slavery and the failure of Reconstruction was to get cameras on it and show “normal” people how bad it really was.
Who were they protesting in support of? White people?
Stop trying to divide us racially.
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How is it divisive to be reminded that nine other people were killed before popular newsrooms took notice?
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Sure I agree but can we we just list all the names of the people affected without the cringe “You only know about the white ones” bait for disengagement? We want to capture as many as people as possible into this movement against fascism, it’s just fucking not the time to finger-wag and shame and even imply that we’re not all on the same fucking side here. If you can’t see how this pushes away average Americans you either don’t care or don’t understand how human emotional intelligence works.
Also, sure, fine, great. Impeaching Noem and “abolishing ICE” is good, but why is that the thesis? Why is that our goal? why isn’t it "Impeach, overthrow or primary every politician who has enabled this fascist takeover of America"?
Something about this whole message feels a little off, and we need to be careful for any traces of divisive language and narrow goals for what we want.
It’s not paranoia to say that there are truly evil people working around the clock to pay other people to seed our discourse with red-herrings, argument-bait and division. There are very real-seeming people who are actually just poor souls in other countries being farmed and paid by twitter to run propaganda campaigns, to make arguments and to get their materials shared and reshared as much as possible. If there’s ever a time to lash out at anyone creating problems and division like rabid bulldogs, it’s now.
I agree with the sentiment, but I will clarify, people know the names of two of the 9 people not solely because of their skin colour…
But those two were violently murdered on camera in front of a crowd. No footage of the other 7 incidents is publicly available so far from what I’ve checked. Other than Keith Porter, the rest were in ICE custody at the time of murder, so no cameras present to immediately disprove the administration’s bold-faced lies.
See this article for info on 8 of the 9. Latest on the 31 Dec 2025 murder of Keith Porter.
Yeah, adding race is unnecessary. Stop it with the racial division and let’s all team up against the facists.
I agree and this whole “you only care because they’re white” sentiment is doing more harm than good.
People really need to understand human impulses and why people turn away from better choices and better reasoning. The left broadly has made this mistake so many times about so many issues that we’ve basically lost all our ground, and we’re still out here doing the finger-wagging bullshit instead of trying to capture power and influence people.
I sometimes think this movement is getting what it deserves just for being stupid, but then realize the message isn’t sinking in at all so it’s just depressing.
This is by the design of our system. It’s significantly easier to arrest and detain minorities in minority neighborhoods without any evidence of the crimes of ICE. The fact that we have 7 actual cases we are aware of for these crimes by ICE should really raise a red flag that there are many many more that we are not even aware of. And this just murders we are talking about. We will find out in the coming years of rape, abuse, and other crimes these Nazis have done.
Pretti and Good are the examples that should upset us not just for the injustice done to them. But also be seen as a question to all; what do they do when the cameras aren’t on them? What do they do when the people filming them don’t feel the shield of white privilege? We don’t get to see those videos.
Using race as a reason to be a radlib and say ‘look at you caring now that white people die’ is dumb as fuck. Understanding how race plays a role in the ability for ICE to get away with their crimes is still of vital importancs though.
In full agreement. The amount of people getting intruded, kidnapped, roughhoused is so large, that it seems most Minneapolis residents have two degrees separation or less with someone who had their rights and personal safety violated by ICE. Most of these incidents aren’t on camera.
Yes, I acknowledge that race is one of the largest factors ICE had Lunas Campos et. al in custody to begin with. However, I’m pushing back on the totally unnecessary holier-than-thou smugness and shoe-horning of identity politics when calling for respect for all of ICE’s murder victims. It takes away from the solidarity needed to put the focus on investigating and stopping ICE’s crime spree.
I do think the racial component is way too important to not emphasize it. This is happening nation-wide and, in the USA, 61% of the people is considered white, black people amount for 12% and native, mixed and other Hispanics, which are probably Latinos, are ~10% of the population, yet, these account for ~50% of the murders.
Pretti and Goodman were killed because they opposed to ICE, not because they were brown people, but most were murdered in custody and they were not white.
The administration is all over the country at the moment buying up warehouses to store ICE kidnapees. There will be way more than 100 deaths by the end of 2026 if the trajectory of current events isn’t brought to a halt immediately.
Wait til they start setting up a rail network to these warehouses…
This is the USA. Rail is for gay socialist antifas. We will use our new 2027 Ford®️ F150™️ Pick-up Trucks with that OBAMA exhaust filter removed so we can do some coal-rollin’ on the migrants we ain’t picked up yet.
So that’s why you invaded Venezuela and want to annex Canada…
(trump wants to do that to enrich his oil Barron buddies and stroke his own ego by stealing land but yeah)
9 that we know of.
People died in alligator alcatraz and we may never know their names.
They were probably used as guinea pigs for Musk’s Neuralink project.
As Homer Simpson put it, “until now, son”.
The entire GOP, senate, congress, are significant amount of white. this should this also fall onto the constituents who are still supporting trump and his mob. Would be great if they could learn empathy past skin color so they can see the full truth of their cruelty they unleashed upon the world.
I would say since we don’t know who all killed and since everyone is wearing a mask. Hold every ICE goon and CBP goon personally responsible for each and every death and prosecute them as a serial killer.
And of course remember that Felony Murder is a thing. You can be held accountable even if you didn’t pull the trigger.
Let’s also remember that if done properly, we could kill ICE gravy seals without anyone knowing who did it.
I don’t think that would do anything but galvanize Trump’s authoritarianism, unfortunately. It would give him an excuse to call martial law.
What ICE agents? I don’t see any ICE agents, who you lookin’ for? Nobody 'round here showing those names or faces! Just a pile of camo- … um, trees and bushes and shit over here.
Fucking fascist paramilitaries.
May justice be done
I love the “it’s neat to car about the victims but you suck for not caring about allllll the victims you jerk” trope. This is how movements lose people.
