Most conservatives aren’t really economically conservative. They too want police, schools, fire dept, infrastructure etc. to be well funded. There’s just also a nebulous idea that “government wastes money” and they don’t want their taxes taken.
police is the definition of mob justice. the police is the armed wing of the state, and solely exists to keep exploitation viable.
ironically, there would be no need for “deescalation” if the state didn’t exist because each community could just live peacefully based on mutual aid. once mutual aid gets too popular in a capitalist society, that’s when the cops show up to prevent the usurpation of state dominion over all living beings.
And as soon as we can trust everybody to respect each other, that would be a fantastic system. But, unfortunately, there are pieces of shit who will take any opportunity they can to hurt others. Removing all law enforcement will give those people a free pass, and encourage others to do the same
Makes me think of Team America. Cops are dicks, but criminals are assholes. If you don’t get the reference, look it up. It’s a fun analogy.
even if you believe that humans are inherently violent and untrustworthy (white supremacist propaganda), that would be an argument against more hierarchy and deputizing state violence not for police existing.
frankly it sounds like you don’t have lived experience with what it is that police actually do.
Honestly it’s a pretty clever scam by conservatives. Run on a platform of big government is inept, wasting your money, we need to reduce spending and reduce taxes!
Once in office, do nothing. Sabotage functional government. Obstruct long term projects. Now you have things to point to as proof that big government is bad and does nothing, because you were the big government and made sure nothing happens.
There are some peculiar branches of libertarian thinkers (Stephen Molyneux being a prime example) that think nothing should be government/tax funded, up to and including e.g. roads. He reasons private companies should build them, and make them all toll roads, or find some other way to recoup the costs.
they experimentated that in a small town, they abandoned it when they couldnt afford the roads, trash cleanups,etc. and then another one was they ran out by black bears.
One of the rallying cries of the Republican party that persuaded so many over the decades has always been fiscal responsibility and tax cuts. They have spent decades persuading voters that paying taxes is a terrible thing. They have claimed that bureaucracy is slow and wasteful. That the taxes people paid have been misappropriated. They have corrupted one of the most important things that a citizen can do for its nation. Pay taxes.
Paying taxes should be seen as a prideful act. This small action provides us with innumerable benefits that every single one of us benefits from.
The voting public has been lied to in an attempt to convince them they don’t receive anything from the taxes they pay. This, as most people should recognize, is a falsehood. From the roads we drive on, the water we drink, and the sewage that gets washed away to the security net that allows millions of Americans to retire every year. Taxes are the foundation that has allowed us to become the strong and comfortable nation that we are.
Taxes are the reason we have such a strong military that many Republicans idolize (while many others denounce.) Taxes are the reason we almost every child in this country has at least a cursory education. Taxes are the reason so many can pursue the careers that keep us safe and healthy, like every single doctor, nurse, and everyone else that helps and support them. Taxes are the reason your community has playgrounds for your children. Taxes are the reason so many farmers even have an income at all.
they been brainwashed that tax cuts to corporations are the only one that matters, because it will give them jobs. i visited r/con early on in his 1st term, it was funny how they mentally gymanstically justify it.
and that the middleclass- well off people not rich think they are getting a deal by having no income taxes in states like nevada, so some moved there and it turns out it has shit education and medical facilities,or none at all(i once followed a poc youtuber that did this) and next to no cultural community according to your race. oh at the same time railing on california, because of its “woke” policies, but your business depends on californias going to your stupid channel.
That’s very strange. If they value public land so highly, why would they back the party that always aims to privatise everything?
Most conservatives aren’t really economically conservative. They too want police, schools, fire dept, infrastructure etc. to be well funded. There’s just also a nebulous idea that “government wastes money” and they don’t want their taxes taken.
They’re like the “no take, only throw” dog except for taxing and spending.
they also been taught to not look any further, than what fox/right wing media tells them.
It comes down to a fundamental lack of empathy. It’s “why should I pay for schools if I don’t have any kids” writ large.
so that illiterate gangs don’t break into your house to steal your shit or kidnap you.
They’re the kind of people that jerk off to the idea of shooting a home invader
i found out the term is ammosexual, these types are in love with thier guns and love to shoot people someday.
if you want police funded I’m afraid you’re just a conservative as well. that’s a mainstream socially conservative opinion.
I’m not against the existence of a police force, but I am against what we have now. (USA)
especially ones that use military equipment.
so, reformism? that’s also conservative IMO
Mob justice is considered uncivilized for many reasons. There does need to be some sort of enforcement group of laws.
They should actually be educated on the law, “deescalation”, and put people over property.
police is the definition of mob justice. the police is the armed wing of the state, and solely exists to keep exploitation viable.
ironically, there would be no need for “deescalation” if the state didn’t exist because each community could just live peacefully based on mutual aid. once mutual aid gets too popular in a capitalist society, that’s when the cops show up to prevent the usurpation of state dominion over all living beings.
And as soon as we can trust everybody to respect each other, that would be a fantastic system. But, unfortunately, there are pieces of shit who will take any opportunity they can to hurt others. Removing all law enforcement will give those people a free pass, and encourage others to do the same
Makes me think of Team America. Cops are dicks, but criminals are assholes. If you don’t get the reference, look it up. It’s a fun analogy.
even if you believe that humans are inherently violent and untrustworthy (white supremacist propaganda), that would be an argument against more hierarchy and deputizing state violence not for police existing.
frankly it sounds like you don’t have lived experience with what it is that police actually do.
Honestly it’s a pretty clever scam by conservatives. Run on a platform of big government is inept, wasting your money, we need to reduce spending and reduce taxes! Once in office, do nothing. Sabotage functional government. Obstruct long term projects. Now you have things to point to as proof that big government is bad and does nothing, because you were the big government and made sure nothing happens.
also having a propaganda platform that keeps the message going constantly, or else the voters will get bored or start to realize something else.
My conservative former friend said he would never vote for any tax for any reason.
Crazy, but true. No he didnt want anything well funded.
There are some peculiar branches of libertarian thinkers (Stephen Molyneux being a prime example) that think nothing should be government/tax funded, up to and including e.g. roads. He reasons private companies should build them, and make them all toll roads, or find some other way to recoup the costs.
they experimentated that in a small town, they abandoned it when they couldnt afford the roads, trash cleanups,etc. and then another one was they ran out by black bears.
I hear you, but Stan was just a cheap-ass.
One of the rallying cries of the Republican party that persuaded so many over the decades has always been fiscal responsibility and tax cuts. They have spent decades persuading voters that paying taxes is a terrible thing. They have claimed that bureaucracy is slow and wasteful. That the taxes people paid have been misappropriated. They have corrupted one of the most important things that a citizen can do for its nation. Pay taxes.
Paying taxes should be seen as a prideful act. This small action provides us with innumerable benefits that every single one of us benefits from.
The voting public has been lied to in an attempt to convince them they don’t receive anything from the taxes they pay. This, as most people should recognize, is a falsehood. From the roads we drive on, the water we drink, and the sewage that gets washed away to the security net that allows millions of Americans to retire every year. Taxes are the foundation that has allowed us to become the strong and comfortable nation that we are.
Taxes are the reason we have such a strong military that many Republicans idolize (while many others denounce.) Taxes are the reason we almost every child in this country has at least a cursory education. Taxes are the reason so many can pursue the careers that keep us safe and healthy, like every single doctor, nurse, and everyone else that helps and support them. Taxes are the reason your community has playgrounds for your children. Taxes are the reason so many farmers even have an income at all.
they been brainwashed that tax cuts to corporations are the only one that matters, because it will give them jobs. i visited r/con early on in his 1st term, it was funny how they mentally gymanstically justify it.
and that the middleclass- well off people not rich think they are getting a deal by having no income taxes in states like nevada, so some moved there and it turns out it has shit education and medical facilities,or none at all(i once followed a poc youtuber that did this) and next to no cultural community according to your race. oh at the same time railing on california, because of its “woke” policies, but your business depends on californias going to your stupid channel.
they dont believe it will actually happen, and thinks trump is joking. this time he wasnt joking.