So I’m assuming that Sinclair will be demanding that Tucker apologize and donate and that the FCC will be threatening to cancel his podcast.
This man doesn’t actually meaningfully believe anything that he says. That said, what he is saying here is true.
A broken Nazi Russian asset asshole clock is right once a day
Trump has actually said critical stuff of Putin lately, maybe Tucker got a bit of marching orders to stir shit up?
Now we’re just lying to ourselves.
"You hope that a year from now, the turmoil we’re seeing in the aftermath of his murder won’t be leveraged to bring hate speech laws to this country,” Carlson said Wednesday
Yeah it would really be a shame if free speech were to be trampled at some nebulous point in the future. Imagine if it were to happen now!
“And trust me, if it is, if that does happen, there is never a more justified moment for civil disobedience than that, ever. And there never will be,” the pundit added.
The most justified possible cause for civil disobedience in all of human history has been and will only ever be… hate speech laws. Jeez. I’m a white guy and even that level of privilege and arrogance is a little crazy.
“Because if they can tell you what to say, they’re telling you what to think…There is nothing they can’t do to you because they don’t consider you human.”
He seems so close to getting it. So damn close. But considering the right’s propensity for projection, it’s probably just an illusion.
That website is an op
Please elaborate or I’ll presume you’re an op against a general strike
What makes you say that?
Whhaattttt?
It’s something all the right wing grifters will realize at some point.
These people have no purpose if Trump forces all the news networks in the country to say whatever he wants. He no longer requires any of their services as mouthpieces.
I think Charlie Kirk ironically would be the first one to balk at the supression of leftist rhetoric.
Without opposition looking to make him look like an asshat while he thinks he’s making them look like an asshat, these pundits lose their ‘edge’. They have nothing to rant against, and without ranting, what’s their draw, how do they make a living being right wing assholes that don’t actually do anything or have to take accountability for anything?
Stating the obvious to hoard in people… While still being a fascist himself. Who could have seen this coming…
Holy shit I agree with Tucker Carlson?
Guess someone forgot to send tucker his check.
“Finally! I’ve finished my kill-bot. Come, gather round, as I unveil it to the world”
“But Professor Killington”
“Yes, adorable, one-legged, orphan Timmy?”
“Why did you make a kill-bot?”
“Well, so it would indiscriminately murder anything and everything that moves, of course”
“But professor, that sounds dangerous”
“Don’t be a fucking retard Timmy. I know what I’m doing”
“O-okay Professor”
“Now everyone gather round as I turn on the killbot for the very first time, and be amazed as it makes me pancakes”
flips switch
“OH NO, STOP, STOP, STOP KILLING ME, KILL-BOT OH MY GOD, MY SPLEEN, OH, IF ONLY SOMEBODY COULD HAVE FORRSEEN THIS TERRIBLE TURN OF EVENTS”.
Timmy would go on to run for Congress on an anti killbot policy. He would lose to a bigoted blowhard who insisted on the right for all people to own killbots to make them pancakes.
Had I more upvotes to give…
I was just thinking this is the perfect meme in this context.
Not only a good point… He dared to go against supreme leader, despite his much he normally licks boots, and when other more moderate people are licking boot about all this
I’m confused, but happy to see it.
I am floored that I agree with that piece of shit, but… here we are.
What a weird time to live in.
Tucker is scared because kimmel and other media personalities are getting nuked. That’s his money flow at risk, nothing else.
Ya know there a principle I am rather fond of, doing good for bad reasons is still good. While Carlson may be a shitstain undeserving of his kneecaps and while he may be doing a good thing for bad reasons, well I’ll take what I can get. We are effectively shrieking into the void like the banshee outside of my window, nobody hears us but they do hear Carlson.
Probably, but it’s smart to take allies where you can find them. A lot of right-wingers pay attention to Carlson, and his stance is hitting where left-leaning sources have no pull.
While his general rhetoric may be aligned, his engagement is driven by people that want validation against those “elite libs” that are saying things they don’t like.
Without those voices in the room, even if there’s an audience that agrees with his words, that audience doesn’t need him anymare.
Plus if successful at turning us from our allies based on misplaced motivation, they would just lie about those motivations more to us. Then lie to the other side about our own motivations for stuff we agree with them on.
He came out in opposition to the Iranian war and was given Ted Cruz the fuck you treatment calling him a dumbass on it. I think that was before Colbert got fired.
If he was scared, he would have kept his mouth shut. This is praiseworthy
Carlson might also be peeved at Trump suddenly being passive aggressive on Russia.
Similar thing for me recently. Learned musk is against collective shouts censorship. Made me really evaluate why I was against it. Still against it. Censorship limits freedom of speech but so does deplatforming the censors. Weird times
Sure, but sometimes the enemy of your enemy is still your enemy. I agree with this one thing that Tucker said. I vehemently disagree with pretty much every single other thing he says, or has said.
Yeah same in my situation basically. Also he wants to harass and censor collective shout. It’s not the right way to address this. ACLU already looking into financial censorship and payment procssors. That’s the way I want it handled. Legally and sanely
The grammar is ambiguous, FYI, of if you meant the censorship done by collective shout or the censorship being done to collective shout.
It doesn’t impact my reply, but I figured I’d let you know. :)
I’m against government censorship in all circumstances outside the cliche “you can’t threaten people or spread injurious falsehoods”.
I’m okay with private entities not giving people a platform if they aren’t a defacto institution. Credit card companies and financial services should be agnostic to which legal businesses they process payments and hold assets for. Much like how shipping companies are agnostic to what’s in your package, beyond what’s necessary to move it safely.
If you’re needed for society to function, I want you to blindly service society, even if people I dislike also get service.I don’t want to be in a place where every platform needs to accept all participants as valid. There’s plenty of ways to share your viewpoint.
That ignores the fact that the government leans on these people behind the scenes. So it is a thinly veiled end run around government censorship, as we have seen with social media, Homeland Security giving lists of names for them to ban for other reasons.
I wouldn’t say it’s ignoring it. I’m incredulous that DHS would pressure Facebook to cancel an account or something for the same reason I’m not as bothered by it happening: it doesn’t have real consequences.
If the government censors you, it can take your money or your freedom. Not only does it have much higher stakes, it has stakes you can’t get around. You can’t go to a platform that doesn’t mind and keep going.
If the government leans on a company, first of all that’s still government censorship and it’s not legal for the government to get a company to do what it cannot. If the specifics of the behavior are legal, it’s still government censorship and wrong (with aforementioned caveats).
That being said, the consequence of that type of censorship is loss of a social media account. You can find another venue and all they can do is keep asking people to remove the content. If someone refuses or you host overseas, there’s not really anything they can do.There’s a benefit to society, in my opinion, for people to reject an idea. Refusing to help someone spread a message is about the most passive way to do that.
I’ve worked in the webhosting industry. If someone has a Nazi website and they need tech support, you need to ask yourself if you’re willing to take that support request or if you’re letting your manager know you’re not gonna help that message.
If the employees at a company don’t want to help you and it’s not unjust discrimination, I have a really hard time saying that it’s wrong to tell Nazis to take their website elsewhere.
I agree 100% Sorry I was ambiguous in my last reply. I am against all censorship both by and against collective shout
I don’t think censoring collective shout helps any of this
I’m not aware of the specifics of that group to know how I feel.
My feelings are more born from looking at webhosting and hate/harassment websites. I have a really hard time saying it’s wrong to take down a Nazi website.
I don’t think the government should be able to, because as abhorrent as it is it’s still a political position and protected. But if the people you’re paying to host your shit don’t want anything to do with you and it’s not unjust discrimination, I don’t think society gains anything by forcing them to keep it up.I also don’t think that applies to monopolies, quasi or defacto.
I think there’s a benefit to telling hateful groups and people they aren’t welcome in civil society. The alternative is to say that there’s no line at which society can tell you to gtfo, and people just need to tolerate you no matter what.
Shunning or deplatforming is how you do that without violence.
What fucking bizarro world have I stepped into where fash-lite bowtie man is making sense
Tucker’s a smart guy with a clever tongue. He can lay out an exhaustive, reasoned, rationalist case for basic civil liberties. And then he can come back a day later to lay out an exhaustive, reasoned, rationalist case against them.
Just depends on which side of the line he’s standing. Dude’s a talk radio mercenary. He’ll fight for whichever side he thinks will turn him a profit.
Tucker’s a smart guy with a clever tongue.
No, Tucker Carlson, the guy who tells idiots what they want to hear.
He’s honestly been right about very niche things for a while, sometimes for the wrong reasons, and never a good person. But he’s sometimes right
I’ve noticed this happening more often than I would have imagined, actually. There are some times where Trump or one of his sycophants will make an off-the-cuff remark that is actually, genuinely, a good and logical thing to do. it doesn’t happen that often, but it does happen. The bizarre part is that when that idea fails to manifest media coverage detailing how bad it is, they just… give up on it. It’s like the conservative political philosophy has completely morphed into being a contrarian force against liberalism, in spite of whatever their personal beliefs might be. If democrats are ambivalent on an issue, so are they.
He was full strength fashy before 2021. He was the one floating a lot of these ideas to see how they play, like locking up your political rivals or news media.
I suspect that it turned out that Carlson’s mean words towards his superiors at Fox News did him in more than anything. They held grudges after being called dumb fucking cunts or whatever and took the excuse to ask him.
Everyone getting a Russian paycheck is becoming visible right now.
Trump had a falling-out with Russia, Russia wants the US out of Israel, so you will notice that every single right-wing pundit who is suddenly screaming about government overreach are also the same ones who have been saying that the US shouldn’t get involved in Israel.
Seriously, it’s like a line-item list. Owens, Shapiro, Carlson, MTG and whatever other assorted midwits who have spoken out against US involvement in the middle-east, same ones who have had the most glowing praise for Russia or Putin.
Russia wants the middle-east via Iran and they don’t like Trump anymore because he’s too hard to manage and will likely die soon, so the window for shaping policy is rapidly running out.
(It’s not going to get better when Trump dies.)
edit: save your insane replies, I don’t care if it hurts your mental health to learn that the world might be more complicated than you think and there is no real binary of “good guys and bad guys” and absolutely everyone is a bad guy.
This comment is almost entirely divorced from reality. Just as bad as the nonsense that trumper dipshits spew. Ben fucking Shapiro has spoke out against US involvement in the Middle East? Lol, pretty much his sole life mission is to ensure that that continues. Gtfo with this shit.
Some people have “Russia Russia Russia” as their core identity. It’s a fact-free flight of fancy.
Thank you for letting me know that you can be safely blocked without me ever missing anything important. Have a good one!
Gotta maintain that echo chamber. Have fun with absolutely fucked world you’re helping to create.
Add me to the list, chief.
i wonder what your response will be once you learn that marjoree taylor green has tried to stop weapons shipments to isreal, but aoc helped stop her… twice
AOC voted to stop the amendment but voted no on the actual bill.
Sounds like there’s a host of details you’re leaving out.
But then that’s a classic Tucker trope.
Ugh Fucker Carlson making sense. I hate this world.
Interesting. I don’t know who he is, but based on (part of) the Russian shopping video I saw of him yesterday, where he was excited at what everything a Russian supermarket has to offer, finally cumming into his pants after finding that Russia has bread, I wouldn’t expect much.
You might enjoy this video to understand how long this chuckle fuck had been around being a douche https://youtu.be/aFQFB5YpDZE
And this one is just historical context for the bread video you mentioned
I only saw a clip of that. In the piece, did he ever disclose how much a typical Russian makes in a year?
Nope. Too busy fucking a dark rye bagel.
Someone did detail that information and response and he had spent like more than a Russian makes in a month at that grocery store, which is geared for the Bourgeois there. Not a working man’s store.
The best part of that video is how he is amazed at coin locked shopping carts. Clearly he has never been in a grocery store.
OMG they have Whole Foods in Russia?!?
Awesome. Thanks.
Kudos for the rapid fire response too.
Russia has bread? Lucky ducks.
