Don’t really frequent it all that much. Not sure when this happened

  • Rose56@lemmy.zip
    205·
    2 days ago

    Why even bother? Let them fucking die in Reddit. They choosed it, not us!
    “But, but, but Reddit has communities that we don’t have here” make one and promote it.

    Ps: talking about Reddit when we said we gonna abandon it, does the opposite.

    • oddlyqueer@lemmy.ml
      11·
      2 days ago

      How many people here learned about Lemmy through Reddit? I did. Can’t use Lemmy if you don’t even know it’s an option.

    • nandeEbisu@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 days ago

      Its way better than it used to be. I don’t know if that’s just because there’s less drama happening right now regarding reddit, but I didn’t get a flooded front page when reddit’s chatbot citations started plummeting which is a huge improvement over the past.

      https://seekingalpha.com/news/4501843-reddit-bulls-react-chatgpt-citations-fall

      I don’t think we should never talk about reddit, but I think it gets really annoying when people start clickbait spamming with Reddit headlines which hasn’t happened in a while.

    • figjam@midwest.socialEnglish
      31·
      2 days ago

      talking about Reddit when we said we gonna abandon it, does the opposite.

      Yeah, but I still like watching the shitshow.

  • Cosmoooooooo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    884·
    3 days ago

    Lemmy happens to be the most free social network at the moment, which is enough to raise the ire of every other billionaire owned fascist social network.

    • Prathas@lemmy.zip
      171·
      3 days ago

      I await the week of dreadful news when they start using their immense wealth to take down instances via DDoS attacks, one by one…

        • Prathas@lemmy.zip
          4·
          2 days ago

          I don’t know; I have neither the interest nor time to run one, and I have seen at least one go down recently (Lemmy.one) partly because of how complicated the whole system actually is. Individual enthusiasts may not have the resources to keep up against the long-term might of Meta, Reddit, etc. if they develop dedicated attack teams.

          Hope springs eternal, though.

        • 1984@lemmy.today
          7·
          2 days ago

          Yeah its a bit slower sometimes during the attacks but seems to stay up. Admin posted they blocked some chinese ip ranges due to massive bot crawlings so maybe someone got upset. :)

      • Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone
        3·
        2 days ago

        Yeah i should look into hosting my own just in case but I’m not tech savvy enough and don’t have the time to learn at the moment.

        Still to busy trying to not go to jail from running my own company and never being sure if I’m doing tax stuff right

        • NotSteve_@piefed.caEnglish
          4·
          2 days ago

          A better way of phrasing it would be that 50% of content and conversation is bot generated.

          • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
            21·
            1 day ago

            Im not, and you can take your Reddit flavored conversation back there with you please!

            Where instead of actually engaging in a topic, you instead resort to personal attacks, and then followup with something that doesn’t even address the original comment to begin with.

            Begone with that bullshit.

    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
      23·
      2 days ago

      I love Lemmy, if we want it to survive and thrive we also need to be realistic with ourselves.

      Should Reddit be scared? No, no they shouldn’t, laughably.

      We’re talking about 0.01% of the active user base. Lemmy has ~ 40-50k mau, if we’re being incredibly conservative, Reddit has ~400 million MAU . Reddit gains about an entire Lemmy worth of new users, daily.

      It’s a humbling number.

      “Well it’s all bots” you say. Well… Given that ~ 1% of reddit users actually post, it would seem safe to assume that non-content posting users would not be bots. Which doesn’t really change the numbers much here.

        • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
          6·
          2 days ago

          What profit incentive is there for bots that don’t interact? (There are edge cases, scrapers and such, but that’s a minute amount of traffic for large services)

          Bots in this context are a tool for manipulating opinions and facts for political gain, marketing, personal benefit, or some other social or economic benefit.

          They cost money to operate and maintain, and generally need a clear benefit to be used at scale.

          That said, bots have only gotten complex in their language capabilities over the last couple years.

          My point still stands regardless, use pre -LLM numbers if you want, it doesn’t necessarily change the picture all that much.

          • Rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.worldEnglish
            7·
            2 days ago

            I would argue that most web traffic is bots. Scrapers are everywhere, all the time, constantly. The uptick of LLM search tools is bringing ever more of them online, too.

            Whether that kind of web traffic has an account on Reddit, probably not. But Reddit bots surely could upvote/downvote/report to influence things rather than just posting?

          • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            What profit incentive is there for bots that don’t interact?

            I always figured they trigger ad views, which financially benefit Reddit itself.

  • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
    921·
    3 days ago

    Interesting. I didn’t know it was active really. People tend to use r/fediverse or r/redditalternatives.

  • baseball2020@aussie.zone
    31·
    2 days ago

    All of the subs I previously visited are being taken over by marketing campaigns and I find it is getting increasingly worse over time. They are slowly pushing out all the real users that generated the value of the site. The end game has to be just bots posting to bots.

    • dax@feddit.org
      13·
      2 days ago

      My theory: they’re just trying to push stock price for the short term as much as possible (by looking good on paper). Then they can cash out and let others figure out what to do with the dumpster fire in the long term.

      They’ve made so many short-sighted decisions with Reddit lately, burning all good will of the community in the process, I can’t really explain it another way.

      • frog_brawler@lemmy.world
        6·
        2 days ago

        100% agree with you. Bots create engagement; even if it’s with other bots. Engagement brings advertisers. Advertisers bringing money makes the stock price go up. It’s a full on fabrication that’s manipulating the market.

      • Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 days ago

        I only “disagree” in the sense that I don’t think they’re thinking that far ahead.

        I think a lot of what’s driving a lot of the more stupid capitalist behavior lately is an emphasis on stock price above all else. Don’t get me wrong, capitalism never had a fantastic incentive structure, but right now I think that the base instinct is to do whatever you can to bump that stock price. Even if that means laying off your workforce and ripping the copper out of the walls.

        It comes out to the same place at the end of the day. Eventually you’ll simply do too much damage to the company and you certainly don’t want to be the one left holding the bag. But… I genuinely feel like noone’s thinking beyond the current quarter. It’s like capitalism’s in a panic mode where “the apocalypse is happening tomorrow so you might as well cash in whatever you’ve got” and has been for years.

    • dil@lemmy.zip
      3·
      2 days ago

      Yep so when ppl google the reddit result as theyve gotten used to they just see ads disguised as comments, it’s been an issue but gettin worse

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
      4·
      2 days ago

      im not surprised, the bots often go for unmoderated subs, because they wont be detected or shadowbanned as fast if they were in a normal modded sub. im in a forum where they often target subs with low moderation to pedal thier OF, or “business”. Also because subs are very hard to obtain by a user if it becomes unmoderated.

    • manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml
      5·
      2 days ago

      [–]vernes1978 4 points 4 hours ago

      This is reddit.
      Nobody has to explain anything here.

      [–]eccsoheccsseven 1 point 4 hours ago

      It’s basically Stalinism

      I’m glad they cleared that up, if people believe this shit, and the spooky stalin stories why are they still using reddit? Won’t stalin find out? I hear he’s got spys everywhere, maybe even in this thread!

    • Redex@lemmy.world
      11·
      2 days ago

      Ngl this is like YouTube is scared of Vimeo, they don’t care at all. Lemmy is such a laughably small percentage of their user base that they probably couldn’t care less.

  • candyman337@lemmy.world
    111·
    2 days ago

    I mean occums Occam’s Razor, are we sure the mod(s) didn’t delete their accounts leaving the community unmoderated or something?