The tables on the road were only there for the inauguration day, but bike lane is here to stay.
That bitch just walkin’ in the bike lane.
Bet there’s some kind of psychological trick you can play on cyclists, distracting them with pictures of people walking in bicycle paths.
Everyone else in that scene could be raw-fucking mid-sized Gumby sex dolls and I’d still be like “Get out the damn bike lane!”
I think many cyclists refuse to acknowledge how much they carry over from car brains. Minor inconveniences should be common and expected. Some bikers react to someone jogging on a bike path as if their life were threatened. Save the anger for legitimately dangerous situations like sprinting into the lane without looking or excessive speed.
Or… just spitballing here, people could walk on the sidewalk. The one beside the bike lane. For walking.
Sure, inconvenience is a part of life, but common sense tells you not to shit in someone’s sink.
Sure, but if you choose to be reactionary rather than understanding you’ll often be in the wrong. My city has some new bike paths where it’s easy to accidentally wind up walking on the bike paths. We are still in a state where many conflicts are due to infrastructure. Are we trying to build better streets for everyone or are we just gonna shift from cars to cyclists owning the streets? When I bike my first thought after safety is being considerate and understanding, not demanding.
I get your point. People walking in bike lanes are annoying but they’re honestly the least of my problems while cycling in the city. And 90% of the time the crappy infrastructure is at fault. I’ve unintentionally walked in bike lanes before as well. It happens, people can be inattentive and make mistakes - I’d much rather have them make mistakes as pedestrians than as drivers.
The entire reason for doing things like this, is that everyone gets their own space for traveling. Cars have their space, bikes have their space and pedestrians have their space. In countries where this kind of city planning is a thing, people rely on their mode of transportation to get from a to b in time. If there’s some dick blocking the bicycle lane, then it is more than an inconvenience.
This. Biking is a form of commute, not a hobby. Every obstruction means you waste your speed and energy into your break pads and you have to physically push to get the speed back up.
Yes, my comment about a Gumby orgy was a serious, reactionary statement about people walking in bike lanes. And somehow an argument for giving cyclists priority on all streets when cars are no more. And a disregard for poor infrastructure.
People should walk where it’s safe to walk. Sometimes they don’t, which is less safe. There should be safe places for people to walk.
I’m still gonna yell at people who walk in the damn bike lane.
People should walk where it’s safe to walk.
Not everyone’s experience is the same. We live off a shared use paved trail that runs for 5.8 miles through our city. It’s part of the 600 mile U.S. Bicycle Route (USBR) 45/45A and it’s not safe to walk because of cyclists.
Cyclists regularly come from the rear at high speeds without announcing their presence. Often while people are walking their dogs on the part of the path that deviates through the park and along the river.
The world would be a nicer place if people showed a little more tolerance and patience toward each other.
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Brother, you seem to be terminally online. Please go for one of those walks you are blathering on about.
If something I wrote is upsetting when taken out of context, you might want to put it back in. World might be a nicer place.
“There should be safe places for people to walk.”
I’m not sure if you ever used a bike lane, or watch the countless videos of people riding on them, but it’s very VERY rare to have unobstructed bike lanes. So… sure, one grandma who isn’t paying attention, who cares, ok a truck that has to do deliveries and forcing you to go on the car lane, not going to kill you… then again, and again, and 2 cars parked there, another delivery… usually before you finish your trip you even wonder if there was a bike lane in the first place.
And each and every one of these obstructions forces you to waste energy into your breaks and you physically have to push to get the speed back up.
If you’d have to pedal cars, people would also drive very differently.
My hard line opinion is that roads are dead spaces. There is no opportunity for anything to grow or flourish; this includes things like community. More roads = more dead space.
If you want to activate a space, i.e. bring community back, reduce road space. And, of course, with reduced road space you need to counter balance with better infrastructure for other modes of transport to get people moving to and from.
Basic town planning! Looking at you… Local council…
Don’t look up parking lot rules in america, dead space like it’s going out of style just so crowds can shop on black Friday and Christmas.
Ohoho… I have seen those rules and having visited both California and Texas last year, I can safely say that I don’t want any of that where I live. California was marginally better than Texas though but not by much.
It was insane to me that it was a 3hr public bus ride to NASA, and that included a 20 minute walk from where the bus drops you off.
…And those Stepford Wives-like suburban hellscapes with nothing but roads and freeways for miles.
Madness.
Look at all the foot traffic for the shops. I have no idea why shops complain about this.
A study in my hometown found that shopkeepers are mostly concerned about their own commute, not decrease of patrons.
That’s interesting.
If I was a shopkeeper I would care more about my profits more than if I can park near my shop.
But I guess deliveries would also be more difficult… still I would care more about foot traffic.
I appreciate the info.
Hell, with a bike path in front of me, I’d bike myself to work. Why bother with a car if I have the infra right on my doorsteps
It’s beautiful 🥹
The after picture looks so much more welcoming, clean, and active. Like the place is suddenly more alive.
Leave it like this (well replace the asphalt for nice tiles) and you’ll actually get more people to come by and stay for a coffee, use the stores, etc…
They probably still need a serviceable road for deliveries. Probably no alley. Trucks can be heavy as for efficiency they load them up. Can’t use tile roads, they don’t hold up over time.
Okay, a few things to unpack here.
Yeah, you need service roads. In the Netherlands they have the city center streets completely blocked off from traffic, only bicycles and pedestrians are allowed.
Once a day, usually 7-9 am, a hydrolic pole will lower at the entrances, allowing small supply trucks in to supply the stores. These trucks will have two hours to get their business done and leave. If the poles go up before they’re out, no worries, they can be lowered on demand for special circumstances or will just auto lower from the inside, not the outside.
Also only small delivery trucks are allowed. I’m in Vancouver and I’m amazed how they sometimes use trailer trucks in the fucking city center. What is wrong with you? You don’t need enormous trucks, literally.
In the Netherlands, all centers gave tile roads and it isn’t a problem because we use smaller trucks there.
The result is predictable. The city centers are amazing, everyone loves them, and ita always crowded like hell because these are human spaces, not car spaces
Car spaces are awful, dangerous and nobody wants to be there. Make human spaces!
It depends on the type of tiles you use. Paris has a lot of tiled roads in pedestrian centric areas, they’ve been there for decades and are not more damaged than asphalt. They’re changed every 15 years or so, from my experience living with a neigbborhood like this nearby.
Every 15 years is terrible for road length, you’re kinda proving my point. Costly replacement too. It just doesn’t work for any type of road that needs to carry loads.
Or any place with extreme weather, or a lot of rain, or etc.
Tiles aren’t for heavy traffic.
Sure, but that doesn’t make them not viable for pedestrian centric areas. The point isn’t durability or low cost, it’s enjoying a city center.
And they’re not replaced because they’re broken, they’re replaced because they turn ugly.
Shops can use a rug, there’s lot more efficient, durable and less costly options that provide the same or better.
They break, and they’re ugly from wear. They’re worn because they’re not the right material for the use case. And no one wants to cart a hand dolly on broken tile. You’re really doing a fantastic job giving more reasons why tile shouldn’t be used when heavy loads are anticipated……
And yet the trend in cities like Paris is to move to these type of roads instead of asphalt… You should call them, tell them they’re wasting their money
But small businesses will suffer if people have nowhere to park 😡
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Lol before: civilized. Afte: just brainrotten. Pedestrians in street, Bike lane und sidewalk.
Found the pickup truck driver. How’s your gas mileage lol?
I’m sorry to disappoint you, I’m just a cyclist.
Then why are you complaining about bike lanes???
