On Thursday afternoon, prosecutors in Texas announced that terrorism charges had been filed against two people for alleged involvement in a shooting during a July 4 protest against the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Prairieland Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas, in which a local police officer was injured.
This is the first time federal terrorism charges have been deployed in association with the “antifa” label, just a month after President Donald Trump announced that he was designating antifa a “major terrorist organization” — a designation that does not exist under law for domestic groups.
The Prairieland case is setting a chilling example for how the government will use so-called counterterrorism efforts to crush anti-fascist dissent. Neither of the people named in the indictment are accused of shooting the gun. Instead, Zachary Evetts and Autumn Hill are accused of “providing material support to terrorists” and having “aided and abetted” the alleged attempted murder of government officers.
The federal indictment accuses Hill, who prosecutors dead-named, and Evetts as being part of an “antifa cell.”
The terrorism charges are an escalation of government efforts to criminalize protest movements by attempting to attribute collective guilt.
if constitution doesnt protect them, that means the whole thing is just piece of paper and effectively null under america’s current government.
One more indicator that the constitution has been suspended for the foreseeable future.
Step one of fascist government label anyone that doesnt agree with them as antifa
Well, I mean, are they not?
The real problem is the people in charge taking a common abbreviation of an arguably positive ideology, twisting that abbreviation into a “scary” name, calling it a violent group, packaging it all up with a neat little bow, and then parroting it to the brainwashed masses.
Agreed.
And, it’s a bit uncanny how eerily close this is to that of the far left when they accuse anyone that’s a hair’s width right of the bat-shit insanity of Stalin of being in support of genocide.
They have distanced themselves so far from an alt-right ideology- that they have circled all the way back around to being comparatively identical in their absence of logic.
EDIT: take note how well my point was made in the responses I’ve received. I’ve been accused of both being “programmed” and being a member of truth social- just for points out the fact that there are people who will immediately accuse you of being something you’re not- just because you disagree with them.
(For the record: this was purposefully done to net these results. Some people are so predictable, you can essentially get them to prove your point for you).
The right: we just scrapped a major solar farm that would be cheaper than coal, then lied to everyone and said coal would be cheaper and the environmental impacts don’t exist. Also, we have unidentified ice agents wearing masks raiding peoples houses, sometimes kidnapping American citizens, and the national guard deployed unconstitutionally. We have 80% support for this.
The left: if you don’t support hamas you support genocide
Truly both sides are the same level of illogical here, you nailed it.
So, you’re creating a different point of reference to show dissimilarities as an argument against something that had nothing to do with your references- and nothing at all to what I actually said…. LOL.
My point remains:
Both the far left and the far right accuse anyone that disagrees with them of saying stupid shit that was never said, or being stupid shit they never were.
But by all means, keep emphasizing yet another point people have against the far left: that you all whatabout and play some stupid version of three-card monte with the plot to the point that you force people to defend points they never even made.
I don’t fall for that shit.
To quote you exactly:
They have distanced themselves so far from an alt-right ideology- that they have circled all the way back around to being comparatively identical in their absence of logic.
If you are talking about the specific instance of “labeling all protestors as antifa” vs “supporting Israel is supporting genocide”… some experts claim Israel is supporting genocide, so the logic is “if someone is supporting Israel they are supporting genocide.” and the protestors all being antifa “members” is just… false. These are not even close to the same level of illogical.
If you mean more generally, my points show they are not comparatively identical in their lack of logic.
The alt right claims to care about the rule of law yet they are breaking the law and disregarding due process, and deporting american citizens as a result. They deployed the national guard to a state against the state’s wishes, illegally, to stand there and do next to nothing. There is no logic here.
The alt right claims they want to help the economy yet their president just threw away a solar project that was already underway to get coal that will be more expensive. There is no logic.
The left claims people who support Israel are supporting genocide. You can disagree with this but there are experts who claim the same. The logic is “some experts claim Israel is committing genocide, therefore if someone supports Israel they are supporting genocide.” Again, you can disagree with the logic, but there is at least a single thought being had, which can not be said for the far right examples.
On that note:
I’d wager not a single far-leftist understands the terms of the MOU (or even knows what it is), has ever even heard of the FMF or FMS- or could point to Palestine on a map before this shitshow ever started, yet so many of them were/are willing to hold our democracy hostage over it.
And as far as my point goes, voting against a fascist is not in any way shape or form- showing support for genocide. But not voting against fascism is absolutely a show of support for fascism.
Hope this cleared things up for you.
Did you get lost? This is Lemmy, I think you were looking for Truth Social.
Yeas. I forgot, this is lemmy: where hive-minded ignorance goes to ignore nuance while congratulating and weirdly- simultaneously competing with one another to see who can make the most smug and edgy response to things they don’t know what they disagree with but are told to.
And not just that, but it’s also where accusations are freely hung on anyone that disagrees with the flavor-of-the-week rhetoric of being a Trump supporter…
I’m guessing you probably don’t even see the irony in your comment accusing me of being a Trump supporter just because I said shit you don’t like- in a thread where I called out the fact that the far left accuses anyone that disagrees with them of supporting genocide.
(In this example, Trump supporter and genocide supporter are interchangeable if it wasn’t obvious)
In what ways specifically is this similar to the far left?
Did I not just spell that out?
You have not, please go ahead though
when they accuse anyone that’s a hair’s width right of the bat-shit insanity of Stalin of being in support of genocide.
Oh, I thought it was pretty obvious you were being hyperbolic there. Try harder
Will do! Thanks bud!
no
Cheers to you! Fuck them
It’s nothing like that.
It’s everything like that.
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You can be deprogrammed. You dont have to feel this way any more. You can be a happy empathetic member of the human race.
“Person that disagrees with my shit politics is programmed”
Isn’t this a bit too similar to how you all complained when people accused you of being paid bots during the election? Which is similar to how trump’s minions accuse anyone that disagrees with them of being anti-American?
It’s almost as if you’re trying to prove my point for me, but you’re too busy trying to be smug to notice.
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There is no point in individual resistance of this sort. You will only go to jail. If you are truly a revolutionary fighter who is ready to do stuff like this well gtfo offline first, & get organized with a lot of ppl.
Just testing the waters
Let’s hope no court will consider antifa terrorists, but there’s always a few judges.
Antifa doesn’t exist. It’s a straw man label to get what they want.
Antifa is just short for “anti-fascism”. Everyone in the world should fall under that label.
If the government considers anti-fascism to be a threat, that speaks volumes about the government.
Yes i know. But as an official organization like they talk about it doesnt exist. I know because id join it if it did exist.
I’ve been looking for antifa for years. I bought the t-shirts and the pins, have gone to the rallies, signed the petitions, etc, but I can’t find the antifa.
Some antifa, but nowhere enough antifa.
We could really use some organised antifa right now. It’s not there yet, though.
Any protester is antifa. It’s a suppression tactic.
All the combined allied forces at WW2 where antifa.
Every single US military member swears an oath which essentially amounts to being Antifa
but will they follow that oath?
lol
In Texas, there’s going to be judges who goosestep behind Trump
First they claimed everything good is Socialism, and now there is a whole generation that thinks Socialism is good.
Now they are taking any opposition and call it terrorism, what do they think is going to happen when more and more people start opposing their living conditions?
btw, attacking them isn’t terrorism… at worst you could say treason? (although the people being attacked were actually treasonous).
terrorism would be attacking civilians randomly… like, say blowing up boats full of people who aren’t waging war…Or having gangs of non-uniformed, masked thugs kidnapping people off the street.
i would say that fits the definition of terrorism and treason
Better stop guys, making too much sense. I need to take more crazy pills before I begin thinking clearly.
sorry, i meant, keeping america safe from the invasion of hispanic gangs
Between what?
what do you mean?
yeah, but facts don’t matter.
to them… but they still matter….
might not matter until some future trial, or future historians pick apart what happened… but they matter
This was all easily avoidable.
Im not giving than an email address to read sn article.
I gotcha covered. https://archive.ph/WTdDN
So I like the intercept a lot. And also find their current way of collecting support really annoying.
Anti fascists are terrorists
Antifa terrorist cells from around the world gather to celebrate defeating the heroic reich
Fascists are terrorists.
So you’re pro-fascism?
No, I just liked the irony of the statement
