• mlg@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Sometimes I wish this would happen so that the USA would 180 and invade Israel instead, but like the USS Liberty is evidence that the opposite would happen and the government would just cover it up and send Israel another billion dollars

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    Zionists are blood thirsty monsters that should be stopped by the world. Stomp their ideology out.

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        Nationalism isn’t something evil inherently, I like to remind of the “singing revolution”, a peaceful separatists movements of the baltic states to split ties with the soviet occupying force: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Way

        But it can very quickly turn into something evil if utilized by powerhungry regimes

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          Nationalism as a political ideology and nationalism as advocacy for independence of people sharing national identity that isn’t broadly recognized as official nation are two different things sharing the same name. Nationalism as political ideology is inherently evil, as it puts interests of an artifical construct above interests of people, with specific attention put to ingroup and outgroup dynamics. Separatists movements aren’t inherently evil, with the desire of liberation being usually something everyone can stand behind, but if those movements co-opt the nationalist ideology, then they may be classified as evil in my book. Or evil-er. There are no perfect victims and such.

          I feel like it’s a meaningful distinction to make.

  • When I saw the news about the impeachment vote, I had the thought “what if they don’t want to replace him just yet because they assume Iran will assassinate him and he’ll be gone?”

    This just adds to that idea.

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    It’s antisemitic to make Israelis look bad by highlighting what they say to each other.

    You are only allowed to hear official, sanitised responses from English speaking israelis.

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      Automatic translation of Knesset member’s and regular Israeli’s tweets has been radically eye opening for me. Kinda hard to hold the view of ‘well, Bibi is a monster but he’s the main one pushing this bloodshed’ when you can factcheck genocidal statements in real time, and see the actions try to meet their rhetoric

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        I was under the impression that the entire population of Israel have been brainwashed against Palestinians from birth for decades now.

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          How much of that was accessible before social media though? Unless you went looking, Israel generally was a pretty sanitized package on the media landscape, or was framed within the “well we were attacked first” narrative that contextually requires ignoring the prior grievances and violence

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        The worst part about it is that, once you know this, every interaction you have with people saying “bibi is a monster” shows you just how bad faith almost everyone involved in the discourse is. After two years of flattening gaza to raucous cheers, unprecedented land grabs in the west bank, and an unprovoked war against iran you’d think people would have looked into a single government official beyond the prime minister to inform their analysis of Israel’s motivations, but no.

        It’s just another empty platitude people can walk out as justification for sitting on their hands while unlimited war crimes play out, day after day, commited by thousands of individuals from the top of the government down to iof privates. No critical thought necessary. Same as the liberals blaming trump as the sole cause of America’s issues. It demonstrates either a lack of awareness or an unwillingness to engage with the larger systemic issues for the sake of avoiding the premise.

        I would say these people should be ignored but its more than half of the people in the discourse and like 99% of the people with any real power. Idk what to do about that.

  • Schwim Dandy@lemmy.zip
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    21 hours ago

    <Seattle goes up in smoke because foreigners don’t understand the difference between Washington state and Washington DC>

    <Trump starts selling gold-plated Space Needle statues with his head on top>

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      I guarantee that a random Italian living in a tiny nowhere village knows more about the US than your average US citizen knows about Italy. I don’t know a single person who doesn’t know the difference between Washington state and Washington the city.

      I have however spoken to Americans who couldn’t point to the United States on an atlas.

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        To be fair if we’re talking geographically, it’d be more fair to compare knowledge of the US to knowledge of the whole of Europe.

        If we’re talking about history it’s a bit different.

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      Foreigners know the difference. It’s Americans who are dumb. I can’t tell you how many Americans think New Mexico is not a state.

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        When I moved away from Alaska, the first person I spoke to in Georgia was a fast food cashier who asked about my day, and they asked “How are you liking the states?” No variation of “Alaska is a state.” would get through to him, he just kept saying “Sure, but I mean like a United States state.”

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        There’s a tweet going around a little while ago about an American who didn’t know that Rome was in Italy. Apparently there’s a Rome in the US and she only knew about that one.

        Do American schools teach their kids literally anything at all? How can you not know where Rome is.

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        11 hours ago

        I wish this wasn’t true. My teen thought this for a few minutes and I had to correct her. I thought she was gaslighting me at first.

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      I mean, you wouldn’t be too far off. There’s an Air Force base about 20-30 minutes from my house. I imagine it would be a military target if a war was ever waged stateside.

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        There are several high-value sites in the state, and I-5 is an obvious target just generally. JBLM, Whidbey Island Station, Everett Naval, and major power infrastructure like Hanford or Grand Coulee.

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    This is the kind of shit why I say that white supremacists and Nazis love the state of Israel. Both they and Israel insist that this is what Jews are really about, at the expense of actual Jewish people just trying to live their lives.