• FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Let’s be blunt:

    'Murica is a root cause of this, not just because of their stupidity, but because they export it to the rest of the world

    If they weren’t so fucking stupid, they could be leaders

    Their scientists and working their bollocks off making life-saving vaccines and doing amazing analysis, but their administration and population are basically toddlers

    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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      4 hours ago

      Let’s be blunt

      Your just a xenophobic idiot, who’s ignoring everything around them.

      America is about as much of a root cause for this as any other country is.

      The admin of every country with out expectation is fucking retarded as fuck. LITERALLY all of them.

      • FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        The fact that your inane comment is riddled with spelling mistakes doesn’t lead me to believe that you’re someone with an opinion of any value

        That is reinforced by the fact that you insist that every country is badly run, using a slur in the process

        You are just another American who is upset that the rest of the world holds your country, and a significant number of your people (not all of them, but most) in contempt

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          Personally I feel that ridiculing someones writing is petty and elitist. I’ve met some nice and smart people who don’t write gud and can’t express themselves via text, possibly due to some different neurological wiring.

    • FenrirIII@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      Don’t blame America, blame the billionaires forcing propaganda down the throats of millions. It’s happening all around the world.

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      21 hours ago

      From your other comments, I can tell your aren’t an American living in America. I didn’t vote for this. I vehemently stand against it. I go to rallies, curved all our spending, and voting for a different country and hopefully a planet for my kids that isn’t fucked. I speak my mind in person to everyone.

      The US is not helping itself or anyone else currently. Fact. But shut the fuck up about how stupid we are. Pull yourself up by your boot straps. The system has been failing our population, intentionally. For decades.

      There are other players on the world stage using other countries like puppets through our politicians. Representatives casting their vote against what their population voted for. (Ie datacenters and support for Israel).

      • FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
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        I started to reply to you, but after reading your reply a few times, I’ve realised that you’re not worth it

        When you said “pull yourself up by the bootstraps”, you showed that you don’t actually understand anything

        Most of all, if you had actually understood my position, you would know that I don’t hate all Americans. I’m marrying one soon, in fact.

        I think that the American people are victims, but too many of you are victims by choice, and the real victims of the regime have been fucked from the start.

        Native Americans

        The descendents of people brought there as slaves

        But there are plenty of dumb fuck white people who will gladly see everyone get hurt, just as long as they are told that they are better, not because they do anything differently, but just because they hate the idea of anyone who doesn’t look like them being their equal

        I recognise that there are good people in the US

        But there’s a disproportionate number of people who are cruel and hateful

        We all know that your education system has been gutted.

        We know that the system is designed to pit people against each other and keep you all desperate.

        What we don’t understand is the hate, and the way you will shit on each other to try to get ahead in a system that has been engineered specifically to make sure that you stay right where you are

        And so many of you are stupid enough to think that somehow, you will be different, if only you can shit on everyone else hard enough

        This might not be you, but it’s too many of you.

      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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        4 hours ago

        Save your breath Lemmy is an extremely racist and xenophobic place.

        You have about as much chance to convince your avg loud mouthed European to stop being a racist xenophobic asshole as you do getting a south baptist good ol boy to stop being a racist xenophobic asshole.

        There’s not a single community iv come across on basically the entirety of Lemmy that isn’t just filled with hateful pricks. Sort of like a few furry ones that actively ban idiots for being xenophobic assholes.

        But most of the time the mods never give a fuck so long as it’s Americans or Indians being attacked.

  • Foni@piefed.zip
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    One of the things that shocked me most about the pandemic was that no country had plans in place for the situation. I had always imagined the basement of some boring government building filled with folders containing plans for all kinds of contingencies, how naive of me.

    If you make plans on calm, pleasant days, you’ll forget things; if you make them on the fly in a panic, it will be complete chaos. And it wasn’t just one country, it was everyone; nobody knew what to do. From what I can see, we’re still the same.

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      18 hours ago

      While there are contingency plans for everything, 1) we didn’t follow them because if they admitted the truth they would need stricter protocols and they wanted the economy moving, and 2) we have all the wrong people in charge.

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      asia did. they already had practices for previous pandemics. Heck people where all going crazy over the super outdoor area cleaning trucks china had going.

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      They all relied on the CDC’s lead, and Trump fucked the CDC.

      There were plans like that, but Trump fired the people who made them in 2018.

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        I remember reading about how Bush 2 was kind of paranoid about a pandemic and had plans made while in office. And that during the handover to Obama it was one of the things Bush told Obama to not ignore for the safety of the country. The admin after Obama ignored everything.

        [Insert Archer gif of “do you want ants? Because that’s how you get ants.” Bonus if “ants” marked out for “pandemic”]

        Anyway, I think about this a lot. Especially with the CDC gutted and measles outbreaks popping up. And now the Andes hantavirus strain.

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          Bush may have been an idiot about a bunch of things but at least he was smart in some places.

          Trump has just been an idiot in every thing.

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          The entire world relied on the US’s CDC?

          I mean, kinda, with the exception of countries like the USSR and whatnot. It was one of those “US is the world superpower” things. Obviously that’s not a good thing lately (if it ever was, which I won’t opine on), but it’s true. That’s why, for example, the only places left in the world with samples of smallpox are one lab in Russia and a CDC-run lab here in the US (not too far from where I used to live, actually).

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            Inherently there should be nothing wrong with one country having a reliable and effective system in place that everyone else relies on.

            The problem is that it only takes one fucking idiot leader to ruin it.

            The cdc after bush and Obama was extremely competent and reliable. It was perfectly reasonable to rely on them.

            The trump attacked.

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          Oh, you know, pandemic, plagues and shit have been kind of a recurring thing for centuries here in Europe. We’re kind of jaded.

    • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
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      19 hours ago

      There are plans. But you can’t plan for every detail

      But the biggest problem is, that those plans somewhat rely on the population to help out and not turn into complete morons

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    We aren’t handling the current pandemics in the world very well at all so its no surprise there is poor preparation for the next one. But having heard the WHO once again with its transmission mechanism as “close contact” rather than the actual known transmission vector of airborne it isn’t a wonder agreements aren’t being made. Every party involved is twisting reality and wants to be able to keep doing that into the future and the drug companies want to make sure they can maximise their profits when they do develop something.

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    It’s bizarre this isn’t a foregone conclusion. It’s also bizarre science isn’t plotting a course for a hantavirus vaccine. 50-80% mortality last check, on those contracting the HPS version.

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      Plus some of these transmissions don’t seem so close contact, one person caught it sitting two seats behind someone on a plane with it.

      It this goes airborne in a real way it could get bad. And if it was doing that, they would be telling us exactly what they are telling us now. Hopefully they can contain it still.