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the president of the United States wanted to build a Gaza beach resort with golden statues of him.
Remember when he posted videos of this.
Yep, that’s Genocide.
It’s not a war if one side has an army and the other one is just families being murdered.
It’s like on/off porn for racists and property developers.
How useful is the UN? They intervened in Europe and Africa.
The UN only intervenes on geopolitically weak targets that aren’t protected by member states who hold veto power. That’s why it’s only ever used against targets like African war lords. Israel’s protected by the US in that regard.
Israel would have to invite them.
If its not an unplanned nuclear exchange or sudden lost of wealth from a bank, then it’s not a crisis scenario.
when the people in the land are ready for peace, peace will happen. until then it will be anything but peace.
.To clarify, which land are you referring to? The land being bombed, or the land firing the bombs?
In which land do the people need to be “ready for peace” before peace can occur?
The people in both must be ready for peace… in case that was not obvious.
Israel’s actions in Gaza are semi-justified on security grounds.
Israel’s actions in the West Bank, much less so. I think friends of the Palestinian cause would get a lot more traction and sympathy by talking more about the West Bank and less about Gaza. Gaza’s fate is sealed, and it will be a grim fate. Gaza is doomed. Tunnels will be destroyed, HAMAS neutralized, the cities ravaged, and when it’s all done Israel will hand the mess back to the inhabitants to deal with.
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Wow okay, how’s the weather in Tel Aviv right now? Sunny? Not too much smog from all the bombs you people are dropping nextdoor?
Yeah I blocked the genocide apologist
Wow, your opinion is actually retarded.
So that’s all ya got?
Israel enacted the first Nakba immediately upon its inception. I know who is not ready for peace and who will not let the region have it, and they aren’t Palestinians.
Just in case anyone isn’t aware, you can block people. particularly obvious trolls.
Hardly a troll. My opinions simply differ from your own.
lol, gaza is not going back to palestine at all. settlers are being moved in for a reason
Gaza’s newest settlers, after the ceasefire…
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If this was done to you, do you think you’d let it happen, or defend yourself?
If you were born in a prison that your grandparents were imprisoned in and your parents were born into, would you be able to stop it from happening?
When defending yourself from the prison guards after they mow the lawn is seen as terrorism, how do you defend yourself without being portrayed as a crazy murderer?
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Germans in the 1940’s paid a grim price for bad political decisions they made in the 1930’s
And it was a collective price, even if you weren’t a Nazi, and even if you didn’t vote for Hitler.
This is no different. Palestinians have been on the wrong side of things for 80+ years. Eventually the bill comes due for decades of bad political decisions (coupled with a lack of international support outside of extremist regimes in the region.) and the price must be paid. We are seeing that now, occurring in real time. Maybe the next generation will be ready for peace. There always seems to be another generation that follows the current one, no matter how many bomb vests they strap on their children.
How about some google pics of the underground tunnels used to store weapons, and paid for by Iran. The target the IDF is really after in Gaza. So little discussion of that among all the pics of dead babies and talk of genocide.
Absent historical context, the pics mean nothing. For that matter, all the deaths mean nothing too, absent proper context.
Israel has been the aggressor breaking international laws for decades. Israel is the Nazi Germany in your anology. Hope that clears it up.
you missed the point.
it wasn’t about Nazis.
it’s about a group of people who constitute a political entity making bad choices (for decades now…) pursuing doomed policies and doomed courses of action.
We’re watching this play out in real time in Gaza right now.
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Israel has been making bad choices since its formation the goal has always been genocide against the indigenous population
Palestinians have been tooting that horn for 80+ years and nobody outside a few radical actors in the region cares. Even Iran just needs Palestinians as cannon fodder. So toot that horn for 80 more years if you like, but don’t expect much to change in the wider world. That narrative has no traction in international politics outside the region.
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Lmao nice try Mossad the entire world sees through Israel’s lies now. The people of the world stand with Palestine 🇵🇸.
Nobody wants to touch the mess that is the Israeli/Palestininan issue. Too messy. Neighboring Arab states are ambivalent towards both sides on their best day, as history has shown.
So if you fight back against some religious fundamentalist from New Jersey that shoots your family and takes your house and puts you in a caged ghetto you’re a terrorist? Lmao
If one side is a kid with a rock in an open air ghetto (similar to the Warsaw ghetto) and the other side is one of the most well armed military powers on earth it’s not a war it’s a genocide
Yes and the reckoning for Israel could be existential.
Time will tell…
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Had me in the first half… then you go on and excuse genocide. You look at this and say “oh ok, yes israel wiping Palestine off the face of the earth is good”. That’s beyond reprehensible
You look at this and say “oh ok, yes israel wiping Palestine off the face of the earth is good”.
Your words, not mine.
When you excuse genocide, they are your words
90% children you say?
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israel was founded by and is run by terrorists. It is the sequel to nazi germany and should meet a similar end.
Great…the hasbara filth are here now.
Obviously, Hamas has surrendered so the war can stop. I keep hearing they care about the civilians.
That’s like saying the rest of the world should bomb USA to rubble and kill as many civilians as possible because of your stupid ass president.
It is NEVER justified to murder innocent people. Especially not children. What the Israeli government is doing in Gaza are crimes against humanity.
Edit: Your comment is so incredibly stupid so I am just assuming you are American
What about the thousands of missiles launched by Hamas? Do they get a pass? Do the children and civilians killed by Hamas rockets just not matter?
Hamas are war criminals and nobody in their right mind would defend their actions. That still doesn’t give Israel the right to blanket bomb cities.
Where have you read that Israel is blanket bombing cities?
Holy fuck, dude. The thread is about satellite images that reflect just that. Genocide apologist.
Again, where have you read Israel is carpet bombing cities? I have not seen or read that in any reputable sources.
Look at the pictures. Do you think the buildings just did that themselves, genocide apologist?
Do you think all of this is made up? https://archivegenocide.com/
Use your eyes you damn idiot. It’s clearly shown in the article and you can even go to Google maps and check for yourself.
Nice whataboutism.
Hamas can be dealt with without bombing Gaza to shreds. And as far as I know there are no consequences the the Israeli gonverments actions.
But in Palestine all of the civilians has to pay the price for Hamas actions.
Edit: I forgot to mention it but there are evidence suggesting that the Israeli gonverment knew about the attack on Oct 7 before it happened but let it happen anyway because it gave them an excuse (it cannot be excused) to enter Gaza and kill as many as possible. They want ethnical cleansing.
That’s some real tinfoil hat stuff there.
Hamas launched over 5,000 missiles into Israel in 2023 alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel
It still does not take away the fact that Gaza is in ruins and Israel is still standing. It does not take away the war crimes the Israeli gonverment has committed. There are no excuses for their behaviour.
With all the missiles, and finally coming in and killing civilians and children and taking hostages, Israel had enough. It’s obvious Hamas doesn’t want peace, they use Palestinians as shields. If Israel stops before destroying Hamas, they only go back to being attacked daily.
Is war hell, and do innocent people suffer and die? Yes, in all wars.
Why won’t neighboring states take Gazan refugees?
Why can’t Israel deal with Hamas without blanket bombing entire areas? Why are they allowed to murder civilians? Why are they allowed to take land that is not theirs?
Honestly, why are Israeli people with more than Palestinian people?
Nothing you said can be an excuse for genocide and war crimes. Because genocide can NEVER be justified.
It really doesn’t matter if Hamas sent missiles to Israel every day for the past 50 years. It still does not give Israel a right to do whatever they want with the Palestinian people.
Why doesn’t israel surrender so the war can stop?
It’s free real estate!
Scorched earth policy which is banned by the Geneva Convention.
Ah, the Geneva Convention… Where the enforcement is made up and the rules don’t matter.
Also literally what the bad guy was doing at the end of ATLA before Aang stopped him.
Somebody should take away Bibi’s firebending…
don’t worry you can still get around in the gaza metro
it’s complete now so rebuilding work above ground can start
Add it to the pile
Rules only matter if they’re enforced.
and if there are consequences for the offender, both of which does not hold true in this case.
October 7 broke the Geneva Convention
Wasnt there just news that Israel knew about 7.10 before and let it happen so that they had a reason for this genocide?
It certainly doomed Gaza, for both combatants and civilians.
“Nothing justifies Oct 7th… but Oct 7th justifies everything?”
How many children were responsible for October 7?
Biblical lands, biblical punishments.
Well the adults resposnsible were children once so…
E: For fucks sake, this was sarcastic. This is the shit some Israelis use to justify killing Palestinian children. You fail me fellow lemmings! :D
Considering Israel’s response to October 7th was to commit one of the worst genocides in living memory on the innocent people of Palestine and following your logic the children of Israel are as guilty as the war criminals in charge of Israel?
Not my logic, see edit.
Sorry buddy, the sarcasm didn’t come across through text. Common problem on the interweb.
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Lol, not even ranking close to the top death rates of current active war zones, but Jewish exceptionism strikes again.
Great, another dope who doesn’t understand that genocide is not a numbers game. Genocide is the intentional action to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.
We are well beyond proving Israel’s intent in this case, their acts in this genocide have been well documented. Israel doesn’t seem to understand that in 2026 everyone has a video camera in their pocket. We don’t actually know how many bodies are under the rubble in Gaza as it has not been cleared yet, with the Israeli government hindering this process as well as stopping any international journalists from accessing the area. All of the death tolls we have are estimates but even at the lower end I don’t think there has ever been a conflict where innocent civilians were killed at such a rate compared to combatants. We have the evidence of the systematic targeting of children with chest and head shots by the IDF. Cutting off water,food and medical supplies to Gaza which is still going on to this day.
Jewish exceptionalism is the scumbags in charge of Israel thinking they will somehow get away with this. The tide is turning and as soon as the USA stops supporting Israel with their money, weapons and UN veto you dirty beggars will get what’s coming to you from your angry neighbours. From the river to the sea you scumbag.
Oh lord that little empty threat at the end was lovely. Big tough internet person.
It takes a child to raze a village.
that’s really clever
Hey, we don’t know those kids weren’t in the middle of “Terrorism Against Americans 101”!
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Escalation is on the table then for both side of the debate with that thinking, nobody will cry if isreal gets wiped out.
If you were smart enough to know how dumb you are you’d be embarrassed.
Did Israel do anything before October 7? Or does it start from there?
Look up the Nakba, it has been going on for a good 75 years now.
Yes, they’ve done a lot.
Apartheid. Meddling in Palestinian elections to ensure hamas in power (so that the PA is delegitimized and destabilized.)
And terrorist acts.
If we go back to the start- of the State of Israel- they’re also insurgents who used terrorists acts to over throw the nascent secular government and push out the already-on-the-way-out British government… because they didn’t want a secular government.
funding Hamas. Shooting their own hostages.
They are not the best of humanity.
Israel has been killing Palestinians and stealing their land for over 60 years.
Pathetic.
Nope, Israel just keeps ignoring it, and the western governments ignores that fact, for some reason…
What about this shows adequate retribution for an attack, and not outright indiscriminate destruction. You either can’t see out of your eyes, or you’re complicit, figure out which
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How dare that satellite be antisemitic! 😤
You joke, but I can literally see someone, or some bot, posting that shit.
I remember someone saying something about babies dying in a tweet, not mentioning, or even about the genocide, and some tool called them anti-semetic… Like telling on yourself a bit there
Also, isn’t Arabic a semitic language too? So killing Arabic-speakers is also anti-semitic, no?
It is, but the term is different when used in the “antisemitic” sense.
State of Israel has earned its rightful place in history, right next to Nazi Germany.
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Zionists, not Jews.
Nazi Germany was overwhelmingly Christian, but Christianity has about as much to do with Naziism as Judaism has to do with Zionism.
the catholic church sure helped the nazis q bunch
Christianity has about as much to do with Naziism
Yet neo-Nazis will say that Jews are a primary opponent to Jesus Christ and have made themselves enemies of God to justify their antisemitism
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There’s millions of Christian Zionists enabling this. The entire United States and a good portion of the west in general is just as guilty as Israel for allowing this to continue. Israel continuing to claim to represent all Jews while committing war crimes is antisemitism. Don’t drink the koolaid and blame “Jews” it’s the Zionist oligarch interests and colonialism fueling this fire.
not disingenuous but most definitely specious.
Nazis killed 13 million people in WW2, Israel killed 80,000 in this war. I think most people here can agree Israel is historically evil, but let’s not play genocide Olympics with Nazis, not a good look.
let’s not play genocide Olympics with Nazis, not a good look.
You turn it into an Olympics by plucking two things out of their context and comparing raw death numbers, that is on you. A genocide is a genocide, so I am just placing them as two of the most evil states in the last century.
But if you really want to compare numbers, Nazis killed millions of Jews during WW2 where crossing borders and occupying whole countries was possible. State of Israel killed about 80000 Palestinians in peace time (and after decades of policies implemented to enforce the opinion that killing civilians is a war crime) displaced millions by levelling entire regions with bombs and is still actively causing millions of them to live in starvation and extreme poverty. Impact-wise these are quite similar, but somehow you think these are incomparable? You think that if we were in WW3, state of Israel wouldn’t kill millions? I am pretty convinced they would. No need to play the “when you compare the two you lessen the atrocities done by Nazi Germany” game, especially considering Nazi Germany paid the price (admittedly because they lost, otherwise I don’t think they would) where as State of Israel is walking out of this unscathed as it stands.
No need to play the “when you compare the two you lessen the atrocities done by Nazi Germany” game.
No you are lessening the atrocities done by Israel. 80,000 is a massive number. Putting it against the largest genocide of the last hundred years is minimizing what Israel has done… I still think comparing the two is tasteless anyway because antisemites equate Israel with all Jews and salivate at the comparison.
That is precisely why I say state of Israel and not even Israel. And probably more accurately zionists.
Now add in all the countries that the US has invaded/bombed at the behest of israel.
All of our middle eastern direct deaths combined are under 1 million. But even a single death in war is horrific.
There is no need to compare suffering. If anything comparing against an outsized disaster like WW2 only serves to minimize how horrific all of these present day wars are, even if the death tolls are smaller. I think people get some weird perversion in comparing Israel to Nazis, its just weird, imo. Highlight the actual horror that is happening today.
no one asked you to quantify this into a game.
WW2-esque
I have to go back to images of Dresden or Warsaw to find similar ones.
The Russians absolutely flattened Grozny (Chechnya) in 1999.
Even with something like Dresden there was something left. Something to rebuild from.
Gaza has been flattened. It almost looks like Hiroshima.
And there will be no Marshall Plan
No, but there will be a Kushner Plan. With trans strippers, and Elon making it rain (if their AI slop promo video is anything to go off of)
bbbut Israel is a democracy. 🤮
Israel is a democracy like how the USA is a democracy.
It can’t be that bad.
