I grew up by the sea and seagulls can fuck right off. Ones where I was learned to shit on you and your food from above so you would put it in the bin, then they’d raid the bin and eat the shit covered food.
A near-lifetime around these fuckers gives me some sympathy for this guy. Not a lot, but some.
Fuck seagulls. They are made to piss of humans.
Grew up by the sea too. Humans destroyed the vast majority seagulls’ habitat, overfished a ton, so if now they steal from us, it’s only fair. They are wild animals and need food. People should learn to protect their food instead of being a horrible piece of shit.
That just sounds like they’re being smart to me. They do it to get food, not to be malicious. Unlike humans.
Labour’s weak attitude to immigration is to blame here just letting these thieves just fly into the country!
Why is everyone jumping to the psychopath narrative? Is there background on this guy? Why bring up crying children? This feels like a Phy Op to me and some people replying in this post are glowing a bit…
Edit: Finally after everyone spent all day being mad at me for asking for information, one of you got me some. Thanks alekwithak!
The moral highground is an addictive drug. People are desperate for it.
Because killing animals, especially over petty shit, and especially especially in front of others while disregarding their reactions is literally psychopath shit. Your insistence that this is some kind of ‘Phy Op’ just makes you look like one, too. Edit: and to call people out for ‘glowing’ is not helping your case, either.
How do we know they intended to kill the bird and not give it a light bonk? Where did you see he disregarded their reactions?
Have you simply never used your hands to do anything before? Or maybe you were born without hands?
I’m just wondering how a human reaches adulthood without understanding what will happen when you nunchuk a seagull into a wall.
So your implying he used full force? How do you know that, is there a video?
So you’ve never used your hands to do anything before, got it.
Are you AI? This is a level of not understanding human strength that seems very ‘I am not human’.
Wait so you’re saying everything you do is full force?
In my experience I can adjust the power and speed I use to do things. This must be blowing your mind.
Imagine making a mistake, it couldn’t be this guy — this guy only takes W’s and can perfectly control his body. Down to his fucking heart rate like Hannibal, wow — us lowly mortals will never compare to the guy with volume sliders on his muscles.
Wtf is this argument? Swinging things applies other forces besides your own power and speed, and since you brought up those two forces you must realize there’s a minimum of both that must be applied in order to swing an object properly and you’d also know full well as Newton’s third law of motion dictates that when said swinging object meets the object at rest that the sum of those forces will be exerted back onto the swinging object. Every choice made equals bird death. He didn’t flick it on the nose, he didn’t show it up slightly, he didn’t swing it into some software brush or a beach ball or an elastic fence, he swung it into a brick wall. A + B = C. Anything else is just conjecture on your end, made in some vain attempt to justify brutish thuggery just because the victim was an animal you don’t respect.
Try it yourself. Get about two feet of rope or something. Tie an egg to the end. See exactly how much speed and power you have to use to get it to properly swing. Then swing it into a brick wall and try not to break the egg. Make sure to film the attempt, I’d love to see it.
"I heard one of the mums say “why did you do that in front of my child?” and he said “it’s vermin, you should teach your children about vermin”
I said ‘why did you do that’ and he just shrugged his shoulders and walked away’
Sounds like a great guy. He’s lucky to have you here defending him for some reason.
Most are the hunted, some are the hunter.
You mean the sky rats??? Fuck em. Get em Brit bong
Bahaha I fully support his actions. Fucking prick seagull fucked around and found out.
There’s a good chance another seagull ate the body before it was even cold.
ahaha animal cruelty funny
You don’t have the same opinion when it comes to rats
The next person who disagrees with you should do the same thing. Fucking psychos
I dont think you should call others psycho after fantasizing about their death.
Fucking psycho deserves the same treatment. Gross person
Not only is he cruel, he is actually participating in making more powerful Seagulls, the surviving seagulls will be the ones that can steal chips and survive being thrown at a wall. Beware the terminator seagull soon attacking your chips, the walls will not survive!
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Me shitposting whilst haters shit their pants and have an aneurism in response
as someone who’s had their food stolen by a seagull a few times i once found myself in a fit of petty rage googling “can i kill a seagull” and the answer is no, like legally you cannot, they’re protected birds
I would suppose that depends on the jurisdiction.
it does not. Seagulls are protected in: UK, Ireland, all of Europe, all of North America, Mexico, Australia, Japan, Russia, and probably more but i can’t be bothered to go past the first few Google searches to find out
Why are they protected? They’re rats with wings.
I feel like the default is that you aren’t allowed to kill animals. Not as in most laws outlaw killing any animal, just that there are probably a lot of laws about randomly killing animals that aren’t like tiny bugs and stuff. Like you can’t just kill a deer unless you have a hunting permit. You can’t catch fish without a fishing license. Sure, you’re probably allowed to kill animals on your property that are a nuisance or anywhere in defense, but I wouldn’t just assume I can kill a random animal.
I think there’s a clear difference between an animal that’s a known nuisance and any other. If a rat and an emu both wander into my yard, the rat’s life is forfeit, but I’m not gonna fuck with the emu for multiple reasons.
What he did was wrong, a bit because of the animal and a lot because of the spectators. It did not suffer, it was quick. It does however feel a bit like cognitive dissonance to strongly disapprove of his actions, while we systematically without any good reason eat animals and have them in small confined areas for optimal meat production per sqm. Vegans and vegetarians however, they can judge him all they want 😉 I am not one of them
Let’s think about it cold. Kill seagull -> no witnesses, and the next seagull might do the same. I mean, let’s get on his level of apeshit crazy, and let’s assume seagulls actually understand stuff like humans, morals, and above all, human morals, and on top of that, they even care about those and want to comply. You didn’t give it a lesson, because it died before it could learn from it, or before it could let the other seagulls know it’s not cool to steal chips.
Hell, even when I’m trying to get on his level, it’s still primitively dumb.
It’s not about morals that the seagulls can understand. It is not about teaching something. He acted like a moron and completely disproportionately. However it’s not that much unethical than killing for meat, when we don’t need to eat meat.
If a seagull is stealing chips from someone, odds are there are plenty of other seagulls around to witness their compatriot getting merked.
Seagulls understand that stealing from humans is risky - that’s why they generally do it very quickly. The ones who fail suffer consequences for their failure, same as stealing food from any other creature. It’s the risk/reward calculation any scavenger has to make.
Sometimes they calculate incorrectly. They get forcibly removed from the gene pool.
Of course, it’s also illegal in a lot of countries to harm seagulls, so in that sense, he was in the wrong anyways.
It shows anger issues and a proloclivity towards disproportionate retribution. Most people wouldn’t kill an animal for a simple chip/fry heist.
It might not have been the first gull who stole his chips—a man has his limits.
He should not have. But we kill animals all the time simply for eating meat, because we think that tastes a bit better. We don’t need to inflict suffering on animals for years, we can abstain from meat. How are we more moral? Just because we outsource the killing? I so not condone his actions, just point out that we are not better.
I think there is a substantial difference though. Meat processing is done in a measured, considered way for a benefit (meat) that cannot be obtained without killing the animal. It is done in isolated facilities away from people who find the process disturbing. Just because people find something gross doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done - we have sewage maintenance done out of the public eye too - but it does maybe mean it should be done where people don’t have to see it. The only benefit this man gets from killing the animal is some sort of “revenge”. But this is in principle completely contradictory to meat processing, where animals are seen as less capable of higher order experiences and therefore more acceptable to kill. To seek revenge, you would need to be assigning more higher order experience to the seagull than we typically see it as having. You have to see the seagull as selfish, stealing, criminal, rude, etc., even though in reality a more reasonable person understands that it’s just an animal looking for food. Meat processing is not done out of some emotional vendetta against the animals, rather it is the cold detachment of it that is exactly what makes it acceptable. Can you imagine if we killed the same amount of chickens every day, not to eat them, but just because we hate them? This is much more horrifying! Because that would mean we think chickens are having complex enough inner experiences to warrant hatred, yet still we kill them.
Meat processing maybe isn’t great, but it’s still much better than this seagull killer. It isn’t impulsive, it isn’t disproportionate in response to the situation, it acknowledges and conceals its own horrors; thereby paying respect to important social codes. The actions of this man, though, disregarded the well-being of children and others around him, in an impulsive and disproportionate response - your average meat-eater is indeed better than that, I think. When I have a craving for some meat, I don’t drag a calf down to the nearest playground, cut it in half and spray blood over the children, and proceed to mock the calf’s weakness and inferiority as I beat it to tenderize it before consumption. I just want some food, dude. But what’s this guy’s beef? It’s not beef, and it’s not even seagull meat, but rather some frightening notion of swift and decisive revenge, which reveals that he is just waiting for any excuse to get away with brutalizing things around him.
I think you might be debating a person who may refuse to acknowledge the points of their opponents. If they come back again, just sit it out.
I am judging the extreme level of force after something so minor as a stolen chip.
I know what you mean, it’s disproportionate as hell. I am just saying that we aren’t much better morally than him. Unless we abstain from meat.
You don’t know it didn’t suffer and he didn’t kill it so that he could eat it (I’m disagreeing with you on the “cognitive dissonance” thing).
Also im not sure if you are saying that you dont judge him for what he did or just saying youre not vegan, but doing as he did is judge worthy.
Of course he should not have done this. What I am saying is that eating meat when we clearly don’t need to is also unnecessary killing. So he killed an animal for no good reason, and we kinda do the same. We have more ethical foods available for us, but we like the taste of meat, and don’t care enough about their suffering. Except for those that abstain from meat.
That’s crazy behavior honestly. Don’t let that guy have access to kids, they wouldn’t make it long.
Don’t steal his chip
Simple as
This thread seems very British.
I’m not. I think that kids would steal his chip. “Simple as” as my pasty strange voiced relatives say.
Those kids better stick to their own damn chips
They’ll survive as long as they don’t steal his chips.
Humans:
- Takes all the fish for themselves
- has bussiness dump to birds perfectly edible but to humans not commercially pretty enough fish bits in the trash.
- builds apartments on the gulls original habitat
“wHy Do ThESe SEaguLl KeEP STEalinG FrOm Us”
I also grew up at the coast and yes they are a menace. But as the saying goes fuck around, find out.
Imagine if we restored and maintained the habitat and did a daily collection of fish waste to dump near that habitat.
Yeah, that seagull sure as hell found out.
Exc-fucking-actly. I’m horrified by how many people here think that animal cruelty is okay when you don’t like the said animal.
As an aussie who has had many foods taken by birds including a fucking eagle that stole my burger out of my hands, this is some sociopath shit
They may be aggressive flying pests but this guy is a fucking psycho.
Nah seagulls deserve the worst
