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Denominator, go Mercator

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    Show this map to Trump. He will not want Greenland anymore.

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      Acquiring Greenland would move the USA up 2 places in the list of largest countries (past Canada and China). That’s probably why he wants it.

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        He just wants it ti deflect from the Epstein Files.

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          He wants to embed himself in the history as some kind of victor. It’s his sick phantasy to be presented in history books as a hero. That’s why he is doing everything he can to irreversibly leave his legacy wherever he can. That’s why he’s building the Epstein ballroom. That’s why he renames buildings and places after himself. That’s why he wants to create new colonies. He’s a narcissist.

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        It is quick becoming a very important strategic hub in the Arctic due to shipping lanes opening up due to global heating. Greenland is also continuously opening up to natural resource extraction as ice disappears, and they have vast quantities of a lot of very valuable shit under the ground that keeps getting easier to access for the same reason, like rare earth elements, oil, natural gas, copper, gold, zinc, uranium, lithium, tungsten, the list goes on…

        Controlling and exploiting that land is a major strategic interest for all the big (and small) powers. That’s why he wants it, and everyone else too. Fuck his fat fucking ass though.

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          The dissonance with Trump is astonishing. The Arctic is recently becoming more important strategically due to ice disappearing, and yet he’s one of the biggest and most stubborn climate change deniers.

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      Wait till he finds out it’s not green at all!

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        He knows it’s all ice. That why it’s called Iceland.

  • MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
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    Greenland: I was in the pool!

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      There’s shrinkage!

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    Map Men most entertainingly explained this

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      Map Men Map Men Map Map Map Men Men!

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        Men map men map men map!

      • tomiant@piefed.socialBanned from community
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        So, these men… What is their area of expertise?

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          Glue

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            Huffing, or…?

            • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
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              technically and

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    I’ll add that we use the mercator projection because it preserves shapes but not scale. There’s other projections that preserve scale but not shapes.

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      Dymaxion Map supremacy.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_map

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        But how will we ever know who the anonymous “West” is?

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          Only the Mathematics and Cartographer classes, or the most elite Historians shall be able to decipher such knowledge.

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        Szupermaci

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      None of those preserve the shape of Antarctica!

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      What is this Twin-peak Earth?

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        how are the owls?

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          Superb!

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      Not to start any shit, but the Robinson Projection looks pretty nice.

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    This post didn’t need to include an ad for x-dot-com.

  • ZpbkPEcaHhIveqdR@lemmy.world
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    I don’t think that’s the true size. You’ll find all those countries are actually a lot bigger than presented on that map and scaled down to fit on a screen

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      You don’t know how big my screen is.

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      deleted by creator

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        It needs to be at least 3 times bigger then this

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    This is why Trump wants Greenland so bad. He sees it, and says “It’s big, I want it. Get it for me!” and gets all Veruca Salt about it.

    All because he doesn’t understand what a Mercator Projection is, on account of he beat up some nerd to do his homework that day, like every day.

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        The Dems need to make a major case out of PeeWee Himmler for the Midterms. Expose him, and add him to the list of horrors that we are running against.

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        wormtongued

        I don’t want people associating Stephen Miller with a Brad Dourif character.

        Mr. Dourif is a saint, and mensch, and doesn’t deserve that smoke.

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    Ragebait

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      Tbh any discussion of Mercator is ragebait enough. (There’s no better choice for slippy maps btw)

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      Croissant shape please.

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    Hmm, so the Mercator projection makes things look larger than they are? I think I’ve got an idea for another use for it… 😏

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      Is that it?

      dfJl118agKWDRWS.png

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      Your penis isn’t far enough north for it to help

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        All right, well first I may need to see a doctor.

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        Yet

    • MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
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      Slightly enlarging something that is microscopic doesn’t change much.

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      10 x 0 = 0

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    This just in: projection requires distortion.

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      Not if you project it onto an oblate spheroid.

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    Yes, but blue (Mercator) preserves direction and shape, which were all that really mattered for navigation by sea, so Mercator was a fantastic projection for centuries.

    And we still use it today for smaller scale areas, since it does a remarkably good job at preserving all 4 features (shape, area, distance, and direction) close to the map origin line. Universal Transverse Mercator is a system that has 60 zones of Mercator turned sideways.

    The reason it’s Transverse is because, unlike lattitude depending on a defined equator, longitude has an arbitrary meridian, so by turning the map sideways we can move the distortion point, and any map area that doesn’t stray too far East or West will be very accurate.

    Think of trying to map something like Chile or Florida, where the area of interest is pretty far North to South, but not East to West.

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    There also an interactive version of this, also a bunch of copies (not sure if this is the original, but i believe so): https://thetruesize.com/

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    How much do you wanna bet Trump wouldn’t be so gung ho on Greenland if he saw this map? He probably thinks he is going to double the size of America.

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      Can they spot grrenland on the map tho?

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      Trump handlers want the resources. Trump wants it because his ego is inflated by mercator projection.

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      Eh, I doubt that’s the case. It could be a 20 m^2 area, but if it had Greenland’s resources they would want it.

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    Relevant West Wing Scene

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